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		<title>by: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.commonties.com/blog/2006/09/21/student-columns-death-threats-and-silent-vigils-in-corvallis/#comment-11644</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Let me throw my two cents in,I feel that we are all God's children,weather we call him Budda,Allah,God.All of the religions have a prevaling theme.That of one god,why in the world do we still have tofight amoungs ourselves in the name of reglion? Why do ther have to be bigiots that think that their way is the only way? Wake up world we are all on the same planet,and were placed here for a reason.This one should be PEACE NOT WARFARE!!!!
To those that don't agree with me or don't want to I say you have that right to disagree,you don't have the right to try to kill me because I do not think as you do.
This globe we call earth would be a better place if we would ALL see the simularities in our reglions insteadof the differences. This is my story and I'm sticking to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me throw my two cents in,I feel that we are all God&#8217;s children,weather we call him Budda,Allah,God.All of the religions have a prevaling theme.That of one god,why in the world do we still have tofight amoungs ourselves in the name of reglion? Why do ther have to be bigiots that think that their way is the only way? Wake up world we are all on the same planet,and were placed here for a reason.This one should be PEACE NOT WARFARE!!!!<br />
To those that don&#8217;t agree with me or don&#8217;t want to I say you have that right to disagree,you don&#8217;t have the right to try to kill me because I do not think as you do.<br />
This globe we call earth would be a better place if we would ALL see the simularities in our reglions insteadof the differences. This is my story and I&#8217;m sticking to it.
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		<title>by: Jesse</title>
		<link>http://www.commonties.com/blog/2006/09/21/student-columns-death-threats-and-silent-vigils-in-corvallis/#comment-1695</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Nathaniel, you are absolutely right. Thank God above, you had the intestinal fortitude to stand up and write the editorial. I am no journalist and although I have written many letters to newspapers with the same arguments, none have been published. I write to some web sites and some are pulled. Amazing. Thank you for your efforts and it is nice to see someone being able to get a forum to get the truth out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathaniel, you are absolutely right. Thank God above, you had the intestinal fortitude to stand up and write the editorial. I am no journalist and although I have written many letters to newspapers with the same arguments, none have been published. I write to some web sites and some are pulled. Amazing. Thank you for your efforts and it is nice to see someone being able to get a forum to get the truth out there.
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		<title>by: mathyu</title>
		<link>http://www.commonties.com/blog/2006/09/21/student-columns-death-threats-and-silent-vigils-in-corvallis/#comment-398</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>we are all related, we are one, one love, all we have is now, the past is gone, let's move on

reincarnation means you were probably a different shade of skin in past lives and you probably will be in your next one (assuming you don't 'fall')

jimi hedrix sang 'there are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke', don't make this mistake, make the most of this precious oppourtunity

love, share with and help each another, tolerance, forbearance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we are all related, we are one, one love, all we have is now, the past is gone, let&#8217;s move on</p>
<p>reincarnation means you were probably a different shade of skin in past lives and you probably will be in your next one (assuming you don&#8217;t &#8216;fall&#8217;)</p>
<p>jimi hedrix sang &#8216;there are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke&#8217;, don&#8217;t make this mistake, make the most of this precious oppourtunity</p>
<p>love, share with and help each another, tolerance, forbearance
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		<title>by: A Naveed</title>
		<link>http://www.commonties.com/blog/2006/09/21/student-columns-death-threats-and-silent-vigils-in-corvallis/#comment-140</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Mark's quote "Responsibility for violence must rest solely on the shoulders of the violent. " Do you believe that the responsibility for the violent war in Iraq and Afghanistan by US rest solely on the shoulders of US (the violent)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark&#8217;s quote &#8220;Responsibility for violence must rest solely on the shoulders of the violent. &#8221; Do you believe that the responsibility for the violent war in Iraq and Afghanistan by US rest solely on the shoulders of US (the violent)?
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		<title>by: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.commonties.com/blog/2006/09/21/student-columns-death-threats-and-silent-vigils-in-corvallis/#comment-112</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I agree with Nick and Blake. Hack or not, both writers should have the same right to express their oppinion. And without fear of violence.  To blame the violent actions of one person on the oppinions of another is both illogical and a cop-out. Responsibility for violence must rest solely on the shoulders of the violent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Nick and Blake. Hack or not, both writers should have the same right to express their oppinion. And without fear of violence.  To blame the violent actions of one person on the oppinions of another is both illogical and a cop-out. Responsibility for violence must rest solely on the shoulders of the violent.
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		<title>by: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.commonties.com/blog/2006/09/21/student-columns-death-threats-and-silent-vigils-in-corvallis/#comment-99</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Blake is a hack writer, with a disturbingly fundamentalist pseudo-Conservative view of the world.  I liked to read his comments in the Barometer, simply to see what sort of silly logic he would use that week.

His "history lesson" with Islam... funny how it mirrors that of Christianity.  Somehow he believes nobody would be upset if he wrote that kind of thing about Christianity... I believe he's wrong.

About the only thing I agree with him on is that our society whines too much about perceived slights.  Freedom of speech is dying in many ways, and the PC (not the computer) revolution is helping.  It's sad that one cannot speak his or her own mind without being attacked for those thoughts.
The only problem is... his writing is a poor example of this.  It's slanderous, one-sided, and full of holes.  
A better example would be the reaction to the Muslims responding to Blake's tripe.  Some received threats of violence (and worse), and they were certainly not deserved.  (I will say, some people that were 100% against Blake's column went too far, and showed the same kind of ignorance, but threats of violence are never appropriate responses)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blake is a hack writer, with a disturbingly fundamentalist pseudo-Conservative view of the world.  I liked to read his comments in the Barometer, simply to see what sort of silly logic he would use that week.</p>
<p>His &#8220;history lesson&#8221; with Islam&#8230; funny how it mirrors that of Christianity.  Somehow he believes nobody would be upset if he wrote that kind of thing about Christianity&#8230; I believe he&#8217;s wrong.</p>
<p>About the only thing I agree with him on is that our society whines too much about perceived slights.  Freedom of speech is dying in many ways, and the PC (not the computer) revolution is helping.  It&#8217;s sad that one cannot speak his or her own mind without being attacked for those thoughts.<br />
The only problem is&#8230; his writing is a poor example of this.  It&#8217;s slanderous, one-sided, and full of holes.<br />
A better example would be the reaction to the Muslims responding to Blake&#8217;s tripe.  Some received threats of violence (and worse), and they were certainly not deserved.  (I will say, some people that were 100% against Blake&#8217;s column went too far, and showed the same kind of ignorance, but threats of violence are never appropriate responses)
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		<title>by: Jin</title>
		<link>http://www.commonties.com/blog/2006/09/21/student-columns-death-threats-and-silent-vigils-in-corvallis/#comment-95</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 18:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>What Nathanael Blake failed to realize is that the social standings of Muslims and Christians defer greatly in today's society. Post 9/11, the Muslims have been misunderstood by many as a terrorist group and as such, also hated by all who thinks alike. Christians in the US today does not have to worry about discriminations, social profiling, and hate crimes. It saddens me that a fellow Beaver of the majority could fail to be apathetic toward the minority. The double standard is there to protect the innocent. Whether or not it was abused can not be pinned on the Muslim community as a whole. Only those who abused it. The secret to social harmony is apathy and the want to get along. Not by being nitpicky and creating stirs when the community is unstable as it is. I hope Nathanael would one day be more of a citizen of the world and not just an individual of his own world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Nathanael Blake failed to realize is that the social standings of Muslims and Christians defer greatly in today&#8217;s society. Post 9/11, the Muslims have been misunderstood by many as a terrorist group and as such, also hated by all who thinks alike. Christians in the US today does not have to worry about discriminations, social profiling, and hate crimes. It saddens me that a fellow Beaver of the majority could fail to be apathetic toward the minority. The double standard is there to protect the innocent. Whether or not it was abused can not be pinned on the Muslim community as a whole. Only those who abused it. The secret to social harmony is apathy and the want to get along. Not by being nitpicky and creating stirs when the community is unstable as it is. I hope Nathanael would one day be more of a citizen of the world and not just an individual of his own world.
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		<title>by: Elizabeth Armstrong Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.commonties.com/blog/2006/09/21/student-columns-death-threats-and-silent-vigils-in-corvallis/#comment-92</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Nathanael Blake sent me the following email as his response to the story:

I recant nothing. Eight months after the "shitstorm" (to use my editor's crude but accurate term) I provoked with my column The Islamic Double Standard, I am more convinced than ever that what I wrote was true and needed to be said.

The main thesis of my piece was confirmed by the response to my column. Had I written a piece attacking Christianity, there would have been nothing significant in the reaction. I know this, because another Barometer columnist, Jim Smith, wrote viciously about Christianity regularly during his time at OSU. There were no agonized debates over whether those should have been published, no protests, no new student groups formed, etc… 

Broader proof comes on a regular basis, seen most recently in the vile response to Pope Benedict XVI's comments. Consider the response of the Pope's critics in the West. They have generally said that he shouldn't have made the comments he did, because they were insensitive and provocative. Implicit in this is acceptance that it could reasonably be predicted that the Pope quoting a centuries-old condemnation of Islam would lead to things like a nun being shot in the back and killed.

The examples are endless. Rushdie had a bounty placed on his head; Dan Brown merely reaped a bounty from his blasphemy. Since there is no compulsion in religion, I'm sure Muslims the world over rose up in protest against the forced conversions of two kidnapped journalists; the media of the imperialistic Zionist crusaders here in the West just must not have covered those protests. 

Everything I said was true. Mohammed did have a child bride when he was in his fifties. Islam did spread through wars of conquest, which began in Mohammed's lifetime and were led by him. Islam doesn't make any distinction between civil and religious authority – in much of the Muslim world, apostasy from Islam is a capital crime. 

In the hubbub over my column, it was clear that my offense was to speak an unpleasant truth that those in progressive environments like Corvallis would rather forget. Their's is a childish attitude, unbecoming of the search for truth that is supposed to mark a university. "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all," is a fool's advice, because sometimes reality isn't nice. To avoid any statements that might offend is to commit intellectual suicide, because it prevents real discussion and investigation. I care less whether my column was hurtful that I care about it being true. 

I can only wonder at the provincialism of people who demand that nothing ever be written that may disturb their emotional equanimity by questioning, and yes, even attacking, their beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathanael Blake sent me the following email as his response to the story:</p>
<p>I recant nothing. Eight months after the &#8220;shitstorm&#8221; (to use my editor&#8217;s crude but accurate term) I provoked with my column The Islamic Double Standard, I am more convinced than ever that what I wrote was true and needed to be said.</p>
<p>The main thesis of my piece was confirmed by the response to my column. Had I written a piece attacking Christianity, there would have been nothing significant in the reaction. I know this, because another Barometer columnist, Jim Smith, wrote viciously about Christianity regularly during his time at OSU. There were no agonized debates over whether those should have been published, no protests, no new student groups formed, etc… </p>
<p>Broader proof comes on a regular basis, seen most recently in the vile response to Pope Benedict XVI&#8217;s comments. Consider the response of the Pope&#8217;s critics in the West. They have generally said that he shouldn&#8217;t have made the comments he did, because they were insensitive and provocative. Implicit in this is acceptance that it could reasonably be predicted that the Pope quoting a centuries-old condemnation of Islam would lead to things like a nun being shot in the back and killed.</p>
<p>The examples are endless. Rushdie had a bounty placed on his head; Dan Brown merely reaped a bounty from his blasphemy. Since there is no compulsion in religion, I&#8217;m sure Muslims the world over rose up in protest against the forced conversions of two kidnapped journalists; the media of the imperialistic Zionist crusaders here in the West just must not have covered those protests. </p>
<p>Everything I said was true. Mohammed did have a child bride when he was in his fifties. Islam did spread through wars of conquest, which began in Mohammed&#8217;s lifetime and were led by him. Islam doesn&#8217;t make any distinction between civil and religious authority – in much of the Muslim world, apostasy from Islam is a capital crime. </p>
<p>In the hubbub over my column, it was clear that my offense was to speak an unpleasant truth that those in progressive environments like Corvallis would rather forget. Their&#8217;s is a childish attitude, unbecoming of the search for truth that is supposed to mark a university. &#8220;If you don&#8217;t have anything nice to say, don&#8217;t say anything at all,&#8221; is a fool&#8217;s advice, because sometimes reality isn&#8217;t nice. To avoid any statements that might offend is to commit intellectual suicide, because it prevents real discussion and investigation. I care less whether my column was hurtful that I care about it being true. </p>
<p>I can only wonder at the provincialism of people who demand that nothing ever be written that may disturb their emotional equanimity by questioning, and yes, even attacking, their beliefs.
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		<title>by: Phil H.</title>
		<link>http://www.commonties.com/blog/2006/09/21/student-columns-death-threats-and-silent-vigils-in-corvallis/#comment-87</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I wonder how Blake feels now. Has he moderated his views?</description>
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		<title>by: kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.commonties.com/blog/2006/09/21/student-columns-death-threats-and-silent-vigils-in-corvallis/#comment-43</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 00:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>One wonders if it will ultimately be our common humanity, and not our divergent religiosity, that will serve as the basis for dialogue. Never has such a strong case for secularism been made as the one presented by the most devout among us. It is good to see the human side of this big, flashy and often overblown clash of political and religious ideologies. What I see here is a plea to at least keep mindful of the physical implications of our metaphysical musings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One wonders if it will ultimately be our common humanity, and not our divergent religiosity, that will serve as the basis for dialogue. Never has such a strong case for secularism been made as the one presented by the most devout among us. It is good to see the human side of this big, flashy and often overblown clash of political and religious ideologies. What I see here is a plea to at least keep mindful of the physical implications of our metaphysical musings.
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